Cooking and Drinking
Cooking and Drinking
​Utilizing the monkey see monkey do approach
Cooking and Drinking
Cooking and Drinking
Cooking and Drinking
Cooking and Drinking
John Fay Jr.
1785 - March 18th 1813(??)
Wife: Lucy Lilley June 8th 1782 - March 1870 (88)
​Many snapshots from the military records, Lucy Smith, according to some of the records I've seen recently show that she was only married to Elijah Smith for between four and five years. Then Elijah was allegedly to have left Lucy. More record show Lucy has been after John's pension for what looks like decades. John was killed on a different day in service March 18, 1813. - but the family bible says he died May 19th 1813
We heard that Lucy, Lilley's father took Joel and Lucy to Concord, Pennsylvania when did Lucy marry Elijah Smith before leaving New York or a while in Pennsylvania?
** if Lucy Lilley/ Fay married Elijah Smith in 1820- was it in New York or Pennsylvania because Lucy Lilley's father took Lucy and her son Joel to Pennsylvania, Concord. Is that where she met? Elijah Smith in Concord, Pennsylvania, and married there? It would be good to determine when she left New York for Pennsylvania.
NOTE
​Lucy Lilley parents, John and Roxy
​Lucy Fay married Elijah Smith on the 10th of September 1820
In this deposition, Joel M Fay Senior states that his mother Lucy lived with Elijah Smith for four or five years then he left, leaving her to be cared for by family.
Contrary to another report, the wife who should know, said John died May 29, 1813 (some reports stated he died March 18th and some the 19th 1813
​The family Bible indicates John died May 19, 1813
1782
​John Fay 1785 - 1813 married Lucy Lilley. She was born in Canterbury, Connecticut.
** I got the spelling of LILLEY off the parents gravestone.
NOTE
​Lucy Lilley parents, John and Roxy
1850
1805
​John Junior was born after the American Revolution which ended 1783
John marries Lucy at age 21 and Lucy 23
** Also, Lucy shows up in the end 1850 census being 68 years old, which pushes her date of birth to 1782 so she is about one and a half or two years older than John
NOTE
1810
1810 Census showing John Fay and below him John Fay Junior
John Fay Sr. would
be 55 years old
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And John Jr. 26
1812
John Fay Jr wife Lucy has remarried Elijah Smith
Year of this file # 11491: unknown
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1850
​1850 census from Concord, Pennsylvania. This section is up a few lines from when we see Joel with his children along with his mother listed as Lucy Fay. Notice the arrow point to Elijah Smith undoubtedly this is the man she marries after the death of her husband, John.
1850
​1850 census from Concord, Pennsylvania. This section is up a few lines from when we see Joel with his children along with his mother listed as Lucy Fay. Notice the arrow point to Elijah Smith undoubtedly this is the man she marries after the death of her husband, John.